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The Oldies Music Board » Elton John Says He Never Wants To Perform This Massive Hit Again » May 9, 2021 6:17 pm

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I always find it fascinating when members of a group or a musician hates the song that becomes a huge hit and then is forced to perform it over and over in concert forever. One great example was "Monday Monday," which every member of The Mamas & The Papas (except for John Phillips) hated and thought would be a flop. I believe it became their biggest hit ever. 

I suspect it was a little easier to sing when it sold millions of copies - including, when I was still a kid, one to me!

The Oldies Music Board » Elton John Says He Never Wants To Perform This Massive Hit Again » May 9, 2021 2:12 pm

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It's one of my favorite Elton John songs and it was a deserved #1. But apparently the guy who wrote it "as a joke" can't wait for his farewell tour to end and vows to never perform it again.

E.J. has a history of trying to make headlines and I hope that's all this is. I can't imagine going to one of his concerts and not hearing "Crocodile Rock."

The Song Elton John Vows To Stop Performing

The Oldies Music Board » Another Great Gone: Lloyd Price Dies At 88 » May 8, 2021 10:04 pm

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It seems lately there are no end to these sad obits. The latest is Lloyd Price, who had hits with "Personality," "I'm Going To Get Married" and "Stagger Lee."

I often wondered why there were two versions of Stagger Lee and his obit by the Associated Press explains it. In one, Stagger Lee shoots Billy. In another, the two make up and they were, as the song goes, "no more sore." But American Bandstand's Dick Clark didn't like the implicit violence and murder in the original version and convinced Price to change the outcome, something the singer was reluctant to do. 

Price was 88.

Lloyd Price, singer and early rock influence, dies at 88

The Oldies Music Board » Don Everly Wins "Cathy's Clown" Court Case - Yrs. After Phil Died » May 6, 2021 3:14 pm

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Everyone knows that the Everly Bros. had a fractious relationship. But it's amazing to consider it's continued even years after Phil passed away. After decades of fighting over who really wrote "Cathy's Clown," arguably their biggest hit record, a court has now decided it was Don who penned the classic - and not with his late brother's help. 

What a sad family feud. Even in death, these two can't get along. 

Don Everly Wins Fight Over ‘Cathy’s Clown’ With Brother’s Family

The Oldies Music Board » Producer Behind Many Jim Croce Hits Is Gone » May 4, 2021 7:48 pm

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It's unusual for a producer to get much attention here, but Tommy West was a name I'd been following for many years. He was the guy who, along with Terry Cashman, produced most of the big hit albums that "got a name" for Jim Croce before he perished in a tragic plane crash just as his career was hitting the big time. 

Cashman & West had a few hits of their own, including the great "A Friend Is Dying" in the 70s, a song about New York City itself going through some very dark times. 

West was 78.

Tommy West, co-producer of Jim Croce albums, dead at 78

The Oldies Music Board » WRECKING CREW » May 2, 2021 8:03 pm

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I went back and checked and you're right - it's the same documentary but uploaded by two different sources. The one that plays in Canada doesn't play in the U.S.!

Man, I long for a day when everyone on the web could be on an equal playing field and not penalized because of their border or where they live. But that, of course, will never happen. 

The Oldies Music Board » WRECKING CREW » May 2, 2021 6:20 pm

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Really? Wow, good to know. When I went there to watch it out without my VPN on, it said "Video unavailable. This video contains content from Magnolia, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds."

When I went using the VPN, it worked fine. Hopefully, they turned off the geoblocking for good. 

The Oldies Music Board » WRECKING CREW » May 1, 2021 10:23 pm

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StereoTom wrote:

The Wrecking Crew documentary is a must-see.

It's on YouTube and it is, indeed, terrific. But you apparently have to be in the U.S. or on a VPN set to the U.S. to see it. I watched it recently. It was something to see - and hear!

The Wrecking Crew documentary

The Oldies Music Board » What Do These Rock Stars All Have In Common? » April 25, 2021 3:39 pm

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Their names are legendary: Bob Dylan, Charlie Watts, Tom Jones, Paul Simon, Art Garfunkel, David Crosby and Mike Love. What do they have in common beyond the fact all of them are famous musicians?

Every one of them is turning or is about to turn 80 years of age. And many of them are still planning to tour once COVID is under control. We're talking about "My Generation" - but they thankfully didn't die before they got old. 

Talk about giving a whole new meaning to Rock of Ages. 

Bob Dylan and Charlie Watts will soon turn 80. More music legends are rocking out long past retirement age

The Oldies Music Board » Why Neil Young Hates David Crosby » April 23, 2021 10:35 am

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There's often a fine line between love and hate - but it can inspire some amazing music. 

14 Bands Whose Members Hated Each Other's Guts

The Oldies Music Board » Lead Singer Of Bay City Rollers Dies At Just 65 » April 22, 2021 11:56 am

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What a terrible week this has been for members of old rock groups. The latest (and fifth one this week) is Les McKeown, the lead vocalist of the 70s boy band The Bay City Rollers. He was just 65. No cause of death was given, but the family announcement indicated it happened "suddenly." 

I was never a fan of this manufactured group but there's no arguing with their success. For a brief time, they were amongst the most popular groups - especially among teenage girls - in the world.

Les McKeown, frontman of 70s teen sensation Bay City Rollers, dies aged 65

The others: 

Joe Long, bassist for the Four Seasons, dies at 88

Jim Steinman, Writer for Meat Loaf, Bonnie Tyler & More Dies At 73 

The Kingsmen's "Louie Louie" Guitarist Gone At 77 

Longest Serving Member Of Poco Dies At 75

The Oldies Music Board » Why Neil Young Hates David Crosby » April 21, 2021 10:12 am

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For two men who produced such great harmonies, there's no longer any harmony between them at all. 

Why Neil Young hates David Crosby

The Oldies Music Board » Jim Steinman, Writer for Meat Loaf, Bonnie Tyler & More Dies At 73 » April 21, 2021 6:26 am

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It started with Bat Out Of Hell, an album no record company originally wanted to touch. But Jim Steinman's songs have since become legendary. The eccentric composer has passed away at age 73, with no cause of death given. He also wrote hits for Celine Dion and Air Supply. 

Jim Steinman, Rock Legend Behind Hits for Meat Loaf, Bonnie Tyler & More, Dies at 73

The Oldies Music Board » The Kingsmen's "Louie Louie" Guitarist Gone At 77 » April 18, 2021 10:00 am

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It's been a difficult week for veteran rock group members. First it was the longest serving member of Poco that left us. Now it's the guy who played guitar on The Kingsmen's legendary "Louie Louie" who's passed away. Mike Mitchell was 77 years old and had been with the group for an amazing 62 years!

Mike Mitchell, Guitarist on the Kingsmen’s ‘Louie Louie,’ Dead at 77

The Oldies Music Board » The sad, gradual decline of the fade-out in popular music » April 18, 2021 9:46 am

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Another take on this long-ago thread, in which Canadian broadcaster and musicologist Alan Cross attempts to trace the history of the fade out - and tries to pinpoint what may have been the very first tune that ended that way - as far back as 1772!

The history of the big fade-out

The Oldies Music Board » How A Song Written As A Joke Became A Huge Hit - & A 4/20 Anthem » April 18, 2021 7:37 am

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Brewer & Shipley only had a single hit - One Toke Over The Line - a song they admit they wrote as a joke and never expected to amount to anything. Instead, it became a huge hit, a pean of praise to pot, and was even hilariously mistakenly misinterpreted by no less a straight arrow than Lawrence Welk. 

'70s folk duo's ode to marijuana persists

The Oldies Music Board » Longest Serving Member Of Poco Dies At 75 » April 15, 2021 4:16 pm

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His name was Norman "Rusty" Young and he was behind some of the great guitar licks on hits like "Crazy Love," "Shoot For The Moon" and "In The Heart Of The Night," The country rock group amassed some 20 Billboard hits, with "Love" probably their best known.

He was with the band for an incredible 45 years, long after the original members, including Randy Meisner, Richie Furay, Jim Messina and Timothy B. Schmidt, left for other gigs.

Poco’s Rusty Young Dead At 75

The Oldies Music Board » Unseen Video Reveals John & Yoko’s Demo Of ‘Give Peace A Chance’ » April 14, 2021 10:05 am

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Just when you think there can't possibly be any new Beatles material that hasn't already been uncovered, this turns up. Interesting, if only to see Lennon ad libbing what was to become one of his best-known songs. 

Unseen Video Reveals John And Yoko’s Demo Of ‘Give Peace A Chance’

The Oldies Music Board » Four Different Songs - Same Title » April 13, 2021 8:24 pm

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Admittedly, having four or more songs with the same title is unusual. Far more common is two tunes with the same moniker that are completely different. Here are a few:

Color My World - Chicago, Petula Clark

Words - The Monkees, The Bee Gees

It's Getting Better - The Beatles, Mama Cass

Day After Day - Badfinger, Shango

Diary - Neil Sedaka, Bread

The Look of Love - Lesley Gore, Sergio Mendes & Brazil 66

Candy Man - Roy Orbison, Sammy Davis Jr.

Close Your Eyes - Peaches & Herb, Edward Bear

And my favorite one of them all, the only time I know of that one group released separate songs with the exact same title in two different years:

Everybody Knows - The Dave Clark 5 (1964) & The Dave Clark 5 (1967)   

The Oldies Music Board » Four Different Songs - Same Title » April 13, 2021 3:09 pm

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If you shorten the list to three, there are a number of songs that fit.
 
Consider:
 
Do It Again – Steely Dan, The Beach Boys & Jon & Robin & The In-Men (which was called “Do It Again (Just A Little Bit Slower)" but the title is there.
 
Another trio of tunes with the same title: “Games People Play.” Artists that had completely separate hits with those words include Joe South, The Spinners and The Alan Parsons Project.
 
But perhaps the word you would never think would fit this category is an odd one: “Superstar.” That was the name of a song by Murray Head (from Jesus Christ Superstar), The Carpenters and a lesser-known hit by The Temptations.

And yes, I'm taking some small liberties with a few of these titles, but it's amazing how the same words make up the same titles - but they're all vastly different songs. 

The Oldies Music Board » Four Different Songs - Same Title » April 13, 2021 2:58 pm

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If you’ll excuse some minor tinkering with the wording, there’s another series of far more successful songs that fit in this category. The title: “I’ll Be There.”
 
Perhaps the biggest hit is the Jackson 5’s “I’ll Be There” in 1970. It made it to #1 on Billboard.
 
Then there’s Gerry & The Pacemakers, who did a song called “I’ll Be There” back in 1965. It was written by Bobby Darin, but the English group had the biggest hit with it. It reached #14 on Billboard, but deserved a better fate.
 
“I’ll be There” was an answer record by a singer named Damita Jo. It was a reply to Ben E. King’s “Stand By Me.”  It hit #12 in 1961.
 
And here’s where the title manipulation comes in. The Four Tops’ had a huge hit with “Reach Out (I’ll Be There)” from 1965. It topped the charts for two weeks in 1965, and remains one of their best records.
 
It’s unusual for one title to have so many separate hits behind it. But if you were to count them up on a list, It’ll “Be There.”  

The Oldies Music Board » Inside the Dirty Business Of Hit Songwriting » April 9, 2021 2:54 pm

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An eye-opening article about something that's been going on in the music biz for decades. It's sad - but not surprising. 

Inside the Dirty Business of Hit Songwriting

The Oldies Music Board » They Needed A Study About Music To Prove This? » April 7, 2021 2:11 pm

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I'm not sure they needed to do much to prove what most of us already know - you prefer the music you heard when you were a teen or a little older. 

"We discovered that, across our participant sample as a whole, music that was in the charts during one’s adolescence was not only rated as more familiar, but was also associated with more autobiographical memories. This music-related reminiscence bump peaked around age 14: songs popular when participants were this age evoked the most memories overall.

In addition, older adults (around age 40+) also liked songs from their adolescence more than other songs. However, younger adults (aged 18-40) did not show this same trend, and in some cases gave even lower liking ratings to music from their adolescence than music released before they were born.

This suggests that songs from our adolescence can become closely entangled with memories from our past even if we don’t personally value the music. This may be because it has accompanied various memorable settings from this period (school dances, gatherings with friends, graduations, and so on)."

Study Purports To Show Why You Prefer Certain Eras Of Music
 

The Oldies Music Board » Honoring Vito Picone, lead singer of the Elegants on his 80th birthday » April 5, 2021 7:31 am

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Which answers the musical question, "Where are you Little Star?"

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