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March 12, 2019 3:32 pm  #1


Artists' First Top Ten: Songs Immediately Before and After

I was recently reviewing some Billboard chart listings and I noticed a pattern.  There were a number of artists who released a song immediately before or after their first top-ten hit that I have come to favor over the song that was their first big success.

Here are a couple of examples:

In October of 1962 Dickey Lee had his only top-ten hit with "Patches".  He followed it up in June 1963 with "I Saw Linda Yesterday", a much better song (in my opinion).

Lesley Gore's #1 hit "It's My Party", was immediately followed up with "Judy's Turn To Cry", a song that did quite well (#5) on the charts and which over the years I have come to prefer over her #1 hit.

In February of 1967, Keith had his only top-ten hit, "98.6".  Immediately before that he released "Ain't Gonna Lie".  It only got to #39, but I fancy it even more than "98.6".

Anyone have others to add to the list?

 

 

March 12, 2019 5:18 pm  #2


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When Jerry Lee Lewis charted #2 with Great Balls of Fire, after charting #3 with Whole Lotta Shakin' Goin On followed by Breathless at #7, I came to realize, at a tender age, that the system was corrupt and became an anti-establishment socialist 

 

March 13, 2019 5:22 pm  #3


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Really like "Ain't Gonna Lie" much more than "98.6".  Did not realize it was released first. 

 

March 14, 2019 5:23 am  #4


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July 1970, Tony Orlando and Dawn released "Candida."
Nov. 1970, they released "Knock Three Times."

I can't say which song is better to me because I think they are so similar to each other.  I don't know how it was allowed to happen.
 

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March 14, 2019 9:43 am  #5


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On September 9th of 1962, Mary Wells' first top ten hit "The One Who Really Loves You" peaked at #8 on the Billboard Hot 100.  Her next release, "You Beat Me To The Punch", which was a song I preferred and seemed to get more airplay, peaked at #9 on September 22nd.

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March 14, 2019 10:08 pm  #6


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It's me Karen wrote:

July 1970, Tony Orlando and Dawn released "Candida."
Nov. 1970, they released "Knock Three Times."
I can't say which song is better to me because I think they are so similar to each other.  I don't know how it was allowed to happen. 

Even though I was only 10 at the time, I remember thinking that they were so similar to each other that the words of one song could be sung to the other (and I think either you or someone else mentioned that on the previous board). I think that this kind of thing had been done from time to time during the 60s (and maybe before), but this might have been the last significant example of this phenomenon. Another example that comes to mind is The Esquires' following "Get On Up" with "And Get Away" ... the latter featured the lyrics "Get up on and get away", and both songs came from their album Get On Up And Get Away.

 

March 15, 2019 10:01 am  #7


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In my opinion, "It's My Party" has a more catchy tune and was deservedly a hit.
"Judy's Turn To Cry" is just the happy end of this teenager story.

 

March 17, 2019 7:07 am  #8


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Ruby and the Romantics very first entry on the Billboard charts, "Our Day Will Come", was not only a top-ten, but reached #1 in March of 1963.  Their follow-up, "Summer Love", peaked at #16 in July of '63.  While I can't say I prefer their follow-up, I do like it as much.  A very different song done in a very different style.

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March 17, 2019 11:20 am  #9


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mroldies wrote:

   "Judy's Turn To Cry" is just the happy end of this teenager story.

Unless you were Judy, that is
 

 

March 20, 2019 3:25 am  #10


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I love all the Browns' songs, but I have to confess The Old Lamplighter beats out the Three Bells for me.

 

March 20, 2019 12:39 pm  #11


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The Browns' "I Can't Grow Peaches On A Cherry Tree" was a great hit as well.

 

March 20, 2019 1:31 pm  #12


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Was a bigger hit by Just Us.  One of the few instances where I can honestly say I like both versions equally.

 

March 24, 2019 6:49 am  #13


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I hesitate to make this comment, because "Since I Don't Have You" is such a classic song and one of those songs that sits in a category by itself.  It was the first entry by the Skyliners onto the Billboard charts and peaked at number 12 in April of 1959.  Their next release however, "This I Swear", is every bit as good a song, but only reached number 26 in July of '59.  Janet Vogel's soaring vocal at the end of the song, while not quite as prominent as in "Since I Don't Have You",  always makes me turn up the ending to enjoy every last second of a truly great record.

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March 25, 2019 6:25 pm  #14


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GrimsbyFan I totally agree about (Since I fell for you). I've always thought of it as the standard bearer of the time. though a close second is (You belong to me) by the Duprees in 1962

 

April 5, 2019 6:39 pm  #15


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While I have always loved "Sleep Walk" by Santo and Johnny, which made it to #1 in September of 1959, their follow-up song "Tear Drop" was every bit as good (I might even prefer it if only because I don't hear/play it as often).  It peaked at #23 in December, but should have gotten higher. 

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April 6, 2019 4:24 pm  #16


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I began paying attention and listening to Top 40 radio in late '59.  I heard Santo & Johnny's "Tear Drop" first, and then  "Sleep Walk" as a featured "Oldie" on WLS Chicago probably in the summer of 1960.  Always preferred "Tear Drop".  I'd been exposed to Rock & Roll much earlier, have a sister who is seven years older than me.

 

April 26, 2019 4:12 pm  #17


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Jim Southern's post re: the passing of Scott Walker (Engel) got me thinking about their music.  In order to fit it into this topic I'm going to cheat a bit, because they didn't actually have a top ten song in the U.S., but they certainly did in the U.K., where their songs were much more popular.  

"Make It Easy On Yourself" was their first top ten hit (#1 in the U.K - only #16 in the U.S.).  It was a great song, but equally awesome were their releases before and after that song.  

Immediately prior, "Love Her" reached #20 in the U.K. (did not chart in the U.S.) - an amazing song featuring Scott's deep vocals and a Spector-like sound and production.

Immediately after "Make It Easy" they released "My Ship Is Coming In" - another tremendous production that reached #3 in the U.K. (only #63 in the U.S.)

All three songs, along with their biggest hit, "The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore", were in my opinion equally powerful vocal and orchestral productions.

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June 17, 2019 6:32 pm  #18


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Once again a Jim Southern post, in this case about Linda Scott (thread title:  "Memories of the Old Board"), got me motivated to do some research.  Looking  back at Linda's chart history. I had forgotten that she actually had 9 songs in the top 100.

In keeping with the theme of this thread, I also noticed that the follow-up to her first hit ("I've Told Every Little Star", which peaked at #3 on May 1st, 1961) was a song I thought was just as strong, "Don't Bet Money, Honey".  The charts seem to attest to the fact that many felt this way,  as DBMH made it to #9 on August 28th, 1961 (went to #3 on the adult contemporary chart).  Interesting fact:  Linda wrote this follow-up to her first hit.

To me Linda's voice and songs were the epitome of the innocence of early 1960's pop music.

 

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June 26, 2019 9:12 am  #19


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In 1963 The Cascades had a monster hit with "Rhythm of the Rain".  It peaked at #3 in March, but it was not their first charted single. 
Immediately before ROTR (January of '63) they had released "The Last Leaf",  a song that peaked at #60 on the charts but should have done much better - it was a great song.  
Immediately following the success of ROTR they decided to go back to their first release and flip the record over.  An equally awesome song, "Shy Girl", only managed to reach #91 in November.
Two songs, one before and one after a top ten, that deserved much more success than they had on the charts.
 

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June 26, 2019 9:38 am  #20


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I really like The Last Leaf and Shy Girl as well. Here on CHUM Toronto, they charted together as a double-sided followup hit to Rhythm Of The Rain, reaching #11 in May 1963.

 

June 26, 2019 12:17 pm  #21


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Interesting that those songs did so much better on the CHUM charts than they did on Billboard.  

I was living in Montreal at the time and I can't recall if they did well on the charts there as well.  I did some research to see if there was any way of finding the equivalent to the CHUM book for Montreal , but I didn't see anything.  Are you aware of any such resource?

The hit music radio stations in Montreal in the sixties were CFCF, CKGM and then later, CFOX.   It was mostly personality radio with disc jockeys that were entertaining without being screamers. 

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June 26, 2019 10:28 pm  #22


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I don't know of any chart books for Montreal stations. I doubt we'd have one for CHUM if it wasn't for the efforts of Ron Hall, a retired Toronto police officer who became aware of the Joel Whitburn chart books and decided to do something similar for CHUM. 

 

June 27, 2019 3:47 pm  #23


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I remember just about 897 km west of Montreal listening to CKLW with some great music and radio personalities.  Miss them.

 

June 27, 2019 9:14 pm  #24


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After I read a magazine article about CKLW in the early 1970s, I managed to tune them in on the old, inexpensive radio that my parents had given me when they got a better one for their bedroom. The signal barely came in for me, but I was thrilled ... not just because of its legendary status, but because of how far away they were from Toronto. I hadn't realized that AM stations could be heard from so far away before that.

 

June 28, 2019 2:05 am  #25


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CKLW was every bit of what their Detroit competitor (WKNR) was at the time was several classic DJs, great music and just great listening.  And we were right across the river - the Detroit River from the station and I would listen to them regularly.

I still have one of the original CKLW vinyl rock collection albums.

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June 28, 2019 6:52 am  #26


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Little Rich wrote:

CKLW was every bit of what their Detroit competitor (WKNR) was at the time was several classic DJs, great music and just great listening.  And we were right across the river - the Detroit River from the station and I would listen to them regularly.

CKLW was a big hit out my way...SE Michigan/NW Ohio.  Whenever you'd go to a beach, this was the station played.  At Cedar Point in Sandusky, OH, you could go from ride to ride, booth the booth and not miss a beat of a song, as every radio was tuned to it.

  I was a dial turner and listened to CKLW, but discovered WKNR along the way.  That was also one of my favs.

 

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