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You're So Vain - Carly Simon
Probably the most famous song in this category. For years everyone was guessing who was "so vain", until Simon finally revealed that Warren Beatty was the one she was singing about.
Oh Carol - Neil Sedaka
Sedaka claims he dated Carole King and wrote the song for her. Howie Greenfield was actually the lyricist, so maybe he gave Greenfield the initial idea and Howie took the lyrics from there. Interesting that Gerry Goffin decided to write an answer song titled "Oh Neil" for his wife (Carole King).
Sweet Caroline - Neil Diamond
Diamond used to tell the story that Caroline Kennedy was the inspiration for the song. Years later he claimed it was actually about his wife, Marcia Murphey, but he couldn't rhyme Marcia (and needed 3 syllables) so he used Caroline instead.
Tricia Tell Your Daddy - Andy Kim (A somewhat obscure reference - only made it to #110 on the Billboard charts)
The song was actually written by Jeff Barry and Marty Sanders (Jay and the Americans)
It was a direct plea to Richard Nixon's daughter to help in the peace effort.
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A triple-header: Abraham, Martin & John by Dion
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Bette Davis Eyes by Kim Carnes
Carrie Anne - Hollies about Marianne Faithful
Candle in the Wind by Elton John - Marilyn Monroe
1 The Carefrees – We Love You Beatles
2 Al Fisher & Lou Marks – Paul, George, John & Ringo (All The Way To The Bank)
3 Donna Lynn – My Boyfriend Got A Beatle Haircut
4 Bonnie Jo Mason – Ringo, I Love You
5 The Angels – Little Beatle Boy
6 Murry Kellum – I Dreamed I Was A Beatle
7 Bill Clifton – Beatle Crazy
8 The Starlettes – Ringo
9 Larry Finegan – A Tribute To Ringo Starr (The Other Ringo)
10 The Bulldogs – John, Paul, George And Ringo
11 The Bagels – Meet The Bagels Singing I Wanna Hold Your Hand
12 Veronica Lee With The Moniques – Ringo Did It
13 The Twiliters – My Beatle Haircut
14 Little Cheryl – Yeh, Yeh, We Love 'Em All
15 The Young World Singers – Ringo For President
16 Dora Bryan – All I Want For Christmas Is A Beatle
17 Scott Douglas – The Beatles' Barber
18 Annie And The Orphans – My Girl's Been Bitten By The Beatle Bug
19 Tracy Steel – A Letter To Paul
20 Jack White – I Ain't No Beatle
21 Gene Cornish & The Unbeetables – I Wanna Be A Beetle
22 Neil Sheppard – You Can't Go Far Without A Guitar (Unless You're Ringo Starr)
23 Brad Berwick – I'm Better Than The Beatles
24 Homer & Jethro – Gonna Send 'Em Home
25 Johnny And The Hurricanes – Saga Of The Beatles
26 Li'l Wally Plus The Venturas – Welcome Beatles
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Cecilia - Simon and Garfunkel
Some have suggested that the title's reference is to Saint Cecilia, the patron saint of musicians, and if so, the song can be viewed as being about the ups and downs of the creativity process in writing a song.
Simon has said several times that he does not remember what the inspiration was for the lyrics and title, but has acknowledged that he was aware of Cecilia being the patron saint of musicians.
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The Curly Shuffle by Jump 'N the Saddle Band - Three Stooges
Kookie, Kookie (Lend Me Your Comb) by Ed Byrnes and Connie Stevens Although Kookie is a fictional character, the song is about Ed Byrnes hair.
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Fever by Peggy Lee - Captain Smith and Pocahontas
P.T. 109 by Jimmy Dean - JFK
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Arthur Conley's "Sweet Soul Music" mentions Lou Rawls, Sam & Dave, Wilson Pickett, Otis Redding, James Brown, and someone named Dizzy G.
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Taz wrote:
Bette Davis Eyes by Kim Carnes
Carrie Anne - Hollies about Marianne Faithful
Candle in the Wind by Elton John - Marilyn Monroe
4 Bonnie Jo Mason – Ringo, I Love You
If I'm not mistaken, Bonnie Jo Mason is a very young and then unknown Cher. She would not be unknown for long.
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Oh Donna - Ritchie Valens
Written for his girlfriend in high school, Donna Ludwig
Peggy Sue - Buddy Holly
The song, written by Jerry Allison, Norman Petty and Buddy Holly, was originally titled Cindy Lou (Holly's niece). but was changed to Peggy Sue by Allison in an attempt to win the favor of Peggy Sue Gerron, who became Allison's girlfriend and wife.
Sheila - Tommy Roe
Tommy always tells this story when he performs it live. He wrote the song for a high school friend, Frita. but the producers didn't like the name. Tommy's aunt Sheila was visiting when he was told to change the name, hence the title.
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Not sure you can say this a song about her per se, but in James Taylor's first big hit, "Fire & Rain," there's a lyric that reads, "Suzanne the plans they made put an end to you."
"Suzanne" was Suzanne Schnerr, a childhood friend of Taylor's, who committed suicide while he was over in England recording his LP. Her name - and a hint of her sad fate - made it into the song.
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Cher had several aliases. I knew about the Cheryl LaPiere but didn't know about the Bonnie Jo Mason. And I knew she hung here hat in Greg Allman's place for awhile but did not know she actually changed her name to Allman.
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Suite Judy Blue Eyes - Crosby, Stills & Nash
Written for Judy Collins (and her sweet blue eyes)
Our House - Crosby, Stills and Nash
"Our" refers to Graham Nash and Joni Mitchel, who were living together at the time.
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Little Rich wrote:
Cher had several aliases. I knew about the Cheryl LaPiere but didn't know about the Bonnie Jo Mason. And I knew she hung here hat in Greg Allman's place for awhile but did not know she actually changed her name to Allman.
You can sort of make out the Cher she would become in this early song from 1964.
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How did i forget these two?
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“The Battle of New Orleans” by Johnny Horton (1959) references then Major General Andrew Jackson.
My favorite trivia question, until the Blackberries became popular around 2002, was, “where was the Battle of New Orleans fought and in which year was it fought?”.
“Sink the Bismarck” by Johnny Horton (1960) references Winston Churchill who told the people "put every ship a-sail”.
Johnny Horton also had an album released in July, 1960 entitled “Johnny Horton Makes History” which has songs about several historical people.
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I Dreamed of a Hill-Billy Heaven by Tex Ritter
Mr. Custer by Larry Verne
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The Night Chicago Died by Paper Lace - Al Capone
OK, I didn’t come up with it on my own. “The Keg” episode of “That '70s Show“ was on tonight. Red and Bob are in the car with the song playing on the radio.
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In the 1980s, there were two top 40 hits with titles referencing another artist who was having a top 40 hit at the same time. In 1984, Rick Springfield's "Bruce" was in the top 40 concurrently with Springsteen's "Born In The USA", and in 1987 ABC's "When Smokey Sings" was a top 40 hit at the same time as Robinson's "One Heartbeat".
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Eddie Money's "Take Me Home Tonight" is an unusual tune for this category, because it not only mentions Ronnie Spector repeatedly ("Just like Ronnie sang...") but it then features her on the record actually singing her famous chorus of "Be My Baby" on the tune.
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Is this Oldies Board now expanding its scope to include songs from the 1980s as oldies?
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That's up to Lorne to decide, but I thought the Eddie Money song worked because Ronnie Spector was a huge hitmaker from the 60s. Therefore it seemed fair to include it here.
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I had originally addressed the issue of discussing 1980s music here when it came up in this post, and my answer was a definite yes for a number of reasons. But I'll add that 1980s music is especially relevant when it involves a pre-1980s artist, which is true of "When Smokey Sings", "Bruce", and "Take Me Home Tonight" -- and in the case of the latter two songs, they were also done by artists who had first hit the top 40 in the 1970s.
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GrimsbyFan wrote:
Is this Oldies Board now expanding its scope to include songs from the 1980s as oldies?
In the word of Bluto, “It don’t cost nothin”
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When Ron initiated this brilliant website, timeline was the '50s thru the '70s and Ron closely monitored that. He started the site in the late '90s - twenty years after the latest of his declared timeline of the '70s (someone feel free to help me with the exact date). Ron retired, Lorne, bless his heart, continued the concept as a sponsor and I know, at some point, there was a little discussion about being a little more flexible with the dateline. Until now, I hadn't heard any complaints about that and I have seen several discussions referencing past Ron's timeline. Me, personally, despite being a very young rocker (1948 was a great year), I am happy to see the dateline flexibility. It's like I tell my listeners during my broadcast: There's way too much great music out there not enough time to listen to it all, but I'll die trying. And as Lorne pointed out, there are many references to the "Good Ol' Rock 'n Roll Days" in the newer music which helps me better appreciate the legacy of the earlier music.
NOTE: I miss "It's Me Karen"
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Ron had begun his site in 1996, and so a lot of 1980s music was still pretty recent during the early years of the board. And yes, I remember that at one time he would delete posts about post-1970s music, but in his board's latter years I saw that he had stopped doing that.
In recent years, I've also seen that some stations with "oldies" in their names or branding are including 1980s music. And as someone who used to work in market research, that's made perfect sense to me -- that including at least some 1980s music as oldies was good for them from a demographics point of view. So I've also felt that it was good for the board to allow some discussion of 1980s music ... it's a way of making it relevant to newcomers who might not go back as far as many of us do. And personally, I'm actually on the cusp in that regard. Although I've always loved 1960s and 1950s music going back to when I was young, as someone who was born in 1960 I continued to also be into current music right through the 1970s and 1980s.
Finally, Taz's "don't cost nothin'" quote is quite literally true of this site. Not only is it hosted for free by Boardhost, but so far I haven't seen any limit from them on the number of messages that can be posted. If anything, I'd like to see more messages here, and so that also makes me want to be inclusive regarding what can be posted.