The Oldies Music Board » Original Doobie Bros. To Release 1st New Album In 50 Years » Today 3:58 pm |
“With impeccable harmonies, ripping solos, and the ability to convey the emotion hidden inside the craftsmanship of their technically demanding musical arrangements, The Doobie Brothers proved their flame burns strong as ever..." That's the truth - great band with fairly good diversity in their melodies - some mellow, some outrageously great rock.
The Stampede album was a turning point for the band, their last before lead singer Tom Johnston had to leave due to health problems. From their Stampede album, one song in particular is a "sleeper" - I Cheat The Hangman; the melody is even spooky-sounding but very well done. I don't know what Johnson's health problems were but apparently he overcame those issues. The Michael McDonald era began with their next album, Takin' It To The Streets. I think that if they are even only half as good as they were in their peak, they will put on a great show.
Go Doobs!!
The Oldies Music Board » Surviving Monkee Micky Dolenz's Startling Admission » December 1, 2024 5:45 pm |
Stranger things have happened. Many decades ago, I attended a small but highly respected university in Michigan whose academic strengths are engineering and bio sci emphasis in nursing, forestry. Despite it's relatively small enrollment (<4500) at the time, the University was once one of the top NCAA hockey schools in the country. All that said, most "hockey jocks" attended the University's school of business. Once in a awhile, one of the jocks graduated in engineering. While I was there, one of the top hockey jocks graduated in nuclear physics. Now THAT was a shocker!! Kind of like Mickey Dolenz.
The Oldies Music Board » In Honor of Veteran’s Day, Easy Trivia Question » November 16, 2024 4:15 pm |
Dodie Stevens' "Pink Shoe Laces" could have been the inspiration for the Corporal Klinger character in TV sitcom, MASH.
The Oldies Music Board » Sad Clowns » November 8, 2024 12:14 pm |
Send In The Clowns - Judy Collins (and Barbra Streisand)
I thought that you'd want what I want
Sorry, my dear
But where are the clowns?
Quick, send in the clowns
Don't bothеr, they're herе
The Oldies Music Board » Reba McEntire Teams With Carole King For New TV Theme Song » October 11, 2024 4:41 pm |
Thanks aflem. This may sound strange, but I like many of the old TV theme songs with particular affinity to Cheers. I can't pass judgement on the show itself until I've seen it but the music - you got it: anything with Carole King has to be good and this is. That woman is very talented and has written many, many songs with her husband/co-author Gerry Goffen, several other songwriters as well as by herself - a true blessing to the musical arts.
Thanks again!
The Oldies Music Board » James Taylor among performers to hold concert for hurricane relief » October 9, 2024 5:43 pm |
Super great talents who bring a glimmer of hope to these impoverished people who have lost not only their entire life savings but lost relatives in the destructive forces of nature. Reminds us of Bangladesh (1971), Live Aid and Farm Aid (1985), Convert for Ukraine (2022) to name a few.
The Oldies Music Board » Sept. 25th Is National One Hit Wonder Day » September 27, 2024 3:36 pm |
I have a copy of tenth edition of The Billboard Book of One-Hit Wonders, copyright 1998. Most of the Billboard reference books which were compiled by Joel Whitburn (founder of Records Research, Inc who is known to have the most notable comprehensive collection of pop music vinyls in the world) did not publish Wonders. Instead, Wayne Jancik, psychotherapist who has a coveted collection of recorded music and associated database, compiled the One-Hits Wonders text.
Great reference with phenomenally vast, comprehensive, reliable database vetting disclosed in the One-Hit Wonder book's Introduction.
Like other Billboard reference texts, all good things must come to an end: there hasn't been an update, IMHO in large part because "pop genealogy" has become so complex with so many more sub-genres of sub-genres with many songs being multi-categorized that it would be far too complicated to compile those data. It would make Darwin roll over in his grave. When you were done, you would likely have few people agreeing, 100%, on the categorization of all the pop songs.
It's time to kick back and enjoy the music!!
The Oldies Music Board » Johnny Cash's Statue now in the Capital Visitor's Center » September 24, 2024 7:17 pm |
A great memorial to Johnny Cash, an iconic statue of Cash, was unveiled today in the United States Capitol Visitors Center.
A fitting tribute to The Man In Black!!
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Some say he was country - I say, "No, he was Johnny Cash." He touched on and inspired other artists from nearly every music genre. But his final album, American IV: The Man Comes Around, includes IMHO, a song which epitomizes his far-reaching, fascinating breadth of genres: Hurt.
Hurt is a song written by Trent Rezner, singer/songwriter with hard core American industrial rock band Nine Inch Nails The song includes references to self-harm and heroin addiction, although the overall meaning of the song is disputed. The song received a Grammy Award nomination for Best Rock Song in 1996.
Fast forward six years to 2002, when Johnny Cash covered the song, Hurt, accompanied by an evocative music video. The music video, capturing the essence of the life of Johnny Cash, is considered one of the greatest of all time by several critics. Though there are scenes in the video which show Johnny with his custom black Martin D1 acoustic in his hands, he did not play it. The songwriter, Trent Reznor, praised Cash's interpretation of his song for its "sincerity and meaning", going so far as to say, "That song isn't mine anymore." Reznor's comment was complimentary. Johnny Cash passed away just months after his recording of this song – many call this his last great hurrah!!
The Oldies Music Board » Rare High Quality Recording Of Beatles Toronto Concert Surfaces » September 24, 2024 3:33 pm |
I won't be surprised if the owner is sued for copyright infringement. Or something along those lines. I'm not castigating, passing judgement - just observations. I would love to see those tapes passed made available so people can better appreciate some of the finest music of all time.
The Oldies Music Board » Original Members Still Performing in Oldies Bands » September 20, 2024 3:01 pm |
So, is Mike Love a one-man-show (with his X number of accompanying troubadours) able to use the official registered name, "Beach Boys?" Does he record under his name as well or does he have the where with-all to record using either the Beach Boys or Mike Love as the artist?
The Oldies Music Board » Sugar Shack's Jimmy Gilmer dies at 83 » September 12, 2024 3:33 pm |
The Fireballs did not record two verses of Tom Paxton's original version of Bottle of Wine:
Little hotel, older than Hell
Cold and as dark as a mine
Blanket so thin, I lie there and grin
Buy me little bottle of wine
and
Teacher must teach, and the preacher must preach
Miner must dig in the mine
I ride the rods, trusting in God
And hugging my bottle of wine
When Paxton recorded it himself in 1968
The Oldies Music Board » Aliases » September 5, 2024 3:32 pm |
What about aliases for songwriting:
Elton John's "Don't Go Breaking My Heart", composers: "Ann Orson/Carte Blanche" aliases Elton John and Bernie Taupin
The Oldies Music Board » 'Live from Motown Museum' show hits SiriusXM this Saturday » September 4, 2024 4:35 pm |
Thanks Lorne - this ought to be great!
The Oldies Music Board » Filipino Girls Put Led Zepplin To Shame With "Whole Lotta Love" » September 3, 2024 12:43 am |
The little boy might shame John Bonham. Or not.
Yes, and you can't fault the kids' taste in music!!!
I guess there a lot of young people that are "wanna-be Led Zepps." A band that comes to mind are the Greta Van Fleets, from Frankenmuth, MI (where my wife grew up but w-a-y before the Fleets) who, when still in high school (ages 14-17), their debut single,"Highway Tune", topped the Billboard U.S. Mainstream and Active Rock charts in September 2017 for four weeks in a row. Their second album, "From The Fires", they went on to win the 2019 Grammy Award for Best Rock Album. Critics were frequently comparing them with Led Zepp from the release of Highway Tune. In a 2017 interview, Fleet's lead vocalist commented on his study of Robert Plant's vocal styles, allegedly unknowingly mimicking Plant's vocals. In a 2018, Plant said of Greta Van Fleet, "they are Led Zeppelin I", in an off-handed way, complimented the lead singer's mimicking of his voice as "a beautiful little singer." Okayyyy
The Oldies Music Board » Where To Find Every Year-End Billboard Yearly Top 100 From 1959 On » September 2, 2024 3:55 pm |
Please accept my humbles apologies.I want to thank you, Jim Elder, for the specificity of your citation. That was MY mistake.
I have the book and read those specific pages, The Top 100 Songs of 1965, etc THEN I reviewed the citation that aflem provided. I should have reviewed aflem's reference more closely because when I did, and compared the Wikipedia reference with the book - WHAM - NOT even remotely consistent.
And after re-reviewing Bronson's "Introduction" to his book, I found he used a different methodology in tallying the statistics than typically used in Billboard. In summary, his intro to the book (too complicated to repeat here) says that he did not consider sales. Instead, highest position and # of weeks in the Hot 100 were the principle drivers. His "Acknowledgments", as printed in the book, included Billboard, recognizing their involvement in the book.
The Oldies Music Board » Where To Find Every Year-End Billboard Yearly Top 100 From 1959 On » September 2, 2024 2:27 am |
According to "Billboard's Hottest Hot 100 Hits" (Copyright 1991, author: Fred Bronson), The Beatles' "Yesterday" made #12 of the Top 100 Songs of 1965.
That citation said, I totally agree that there appears to be inconsistencies in the numbers. Similarly, with the RRHOF and artists are inducted into that. I know that, historically, that inconsistency has been hashed out many times before here on this app.
The problem is that Billboard is the one who developed the ratings and are the gold standard when citing charts in America, e.g. Wikipedia references Billboard charts in their documentation when discussing popularity in their discussions.
The Oldies Music Board » How Did Jimi Hendrix Wind Up Opening For The Monkees On Tour? » August 6, 2024 6:34 pm |
WOW! This is an amazing revelation aflem. It is a given fact that Jimi Hendrix was not that red hot here in America gaining some allegiance much later. But this tale about being one of the warm-up groups for the Monkees and the degradation of his performance with them - wrong time, wrong place and total dissolution of The Experience by the others. The promoters were way off base when they paired Jimi with the others. He was way out of their league. The interviews are really stunning. Once again, "thanks."
The Oldies Music Board » Songwriter Jerry Fuller Dies At 85, Leaves Huge Catalog Of Hits » July 27, 2024 3:58 pm |
For point of clarity:
I want to thank Lorne for clarifying a few points. and I, personally, want to apologize for instigating the uproar. I thought hard about how to make my point and, in the end, I guess I should have let it be.
I hold in high regard aflem's comments and input on this board. I wasn't intentionally denigrating his comment or his YouTube reference. I was trying to say that if I know a particular piece of music, then I will purchase it and own the rites to listening to it. YouTube, Sirius, any of the electronic venues limit the "open range" listening opportunities as opposed to purchasing and including the songs in a "personal library" of music that I can experiment with when assembling playlists - that's all. I spend of time organizing and reorganizing playlists in my library that's why I like to include the songs on my library.
Regarding my comment, " And I DO purchase it, not pirate it from some unknown site.": I didn't even mean to imply that anyone was pirating and I am sorry that that comment was misinterpreted. I was simply clarifying that I, personally, do not pirate, instead I purchase all the music that I include in my library. In no way did I intentionally castigate any one else's method of acquisition.
And, aflem, thanks for making that opportunity available for people to listen to that so that, as in your case, people could listen and appreciate great music that they may not have heard and maybe appreciated. I frequently listen to a song on YouTube to check it out and, if I like it, I will purchase it for my library. I have a handful of songs that I would love to get my hands on but, to my knowledge, have never made it to the recording studio, some of which were played impromptu on a television show or a live radio show. I would guess the copyright of that performance would be owned by the TV or radio station.
In these days of miscommunication and abhorrently deceitful rumor circulation, I'm sensitive to th
The Oldies Music Board » Songwriter Jerry Fuller Dies At 85, Leaves Huge Catalog Of Hits » July 23, 2024 3:09 pm |
aflem wrote:
Little Rich wrote:
He wrote some great songs. My favorite: Desire by the Trophies included Rick Nelson, Jerry Fuller, Glen Campbell & Dave Burgess. Did not chart in 1962. Classic doo wop!!
I have the CD, The Lost '60s Recordings (released May 2003), highlighting their music including Desire. Great Great music.There's nothing that's not on YouTube...
Thanks aflem. But some of us collect music - listening to it isn't the same as owning/playing it. And I DO purchase it, not pirate it from some unknown site.
I have also heard you can download from YouTube legally but I have yet to figure that out, despite the fact I currently subscribe.
The Oldies Music Board » Songwriter Jerry Fuller Dies At 85, Leaves Huge Catalog Of Hits » July 22, 2024 5:17 pm |
He wrote some great songs. My favorite: Desire by the Trophies included Rick Nelson, Jerry Fuller, Glen Campbell & Dave Burgess. Did not chart in 1962. Classic doo wop!!
I have the CD, The Lost '60s Recordings (released May 2003), highlihgting their music including Desire. Great Great music.
The Oldies Music Board » Review: THE TEMPTATIONS AND THE FOUR TOPS at McCoy Center For The Arts » June 17, 2024 3:40 pm |
I grew up in/on Motown. Super music with many talented artists. I refer to the Four Tops as THE Fab Four - MOTOWN's Fab Four, not to take away from the Temptations because, they, too, were highly respected, highly talented artists who reflected the immense talent of their individual members including Eddie Kendricks, Paul Williams, David Ruffin and so many more. They captured and characterized the whole foundation of SOUL!!
The Oldies Music Board » For the birds » April 21, 2024 2:02 am |
Lady Bird by Nancy Sinatra & Le Hazelwood
Any Day Now (My Wild Beautiful Bird) - Chuck Jackson
Wild Bird - Michael Martin Murphey
Mockingbird - Inez Foxx
This Little Bird - Marianne Faithful
It Ain't Necessarily Bird Avenue - Spanky & Our Gang
Long Tailed Winter Bird - Paul McCartney
Birds of a Feather - Joe South
The Oldies Music Board » Can You I.D. This Rock God? » March 27, 2024 1:26 am |
I, personally, think it's worth noting that Jimi was not JUST in the U.S. Army, he was in assigned to a "lean mean fighting machine," the 101st Airborne Paratroopers and, despite his lax attitude, actually qualified for the Screaming Eagles badge after satisfactorily completing paratrooper training. He was anti-war (Vietnam) but supported the Troops. And he adored Bob Dylan and, besides All The Watch Tower, he recorded many Dylan tunes but don't know how many of those recordings were ever released. HBO (+20 years ago?) produced a two-hour special about Jimi Hendrix with many interviews of friends and family that knew him well - very very well done. Yes, I saw it; in fact, at one time I had it on a VHS tape but we moved several times it and was tossed somewhere. Whether you're into his music style or not, he was a brilliant musician and money wasn't his principal objective. And the stage was his platform.
The Oldies Music Board » Guitar Legend James Burton Named to Country Music Hall of Fame » March 25, 2024 7:57 pm |
I know Burton best as the co-composer, with Nelson, of Marshmallow Skies, released by Rick Nelson on his one and only(?) psychedelic pop album, "Another Side Of Rick," in November 1967, which crashed and burned. At the time, he really didn't know if he wanted to be a hippie or a cowboy. In the end, he embraced C&W - better choice.
The Oldies Music Board » New Radio Format Explores Stories Behind The Greatest Hits It Plays » March 18, 2024 3:36 pm |
I play sets of three songs and will spend no more thirty seconds of air-time briefly describing "insight" on behind-the-scenes trivia about the song, artist, and/or songwriter. You're right, it's not for everyone but I have a steadily growing cadre of listeners who appear to appreciate the format, calling in and expressing their thanks for the info. It takes a lot of time (20 to 30 hours of preparation for each two-hour show) researching those pieces of trivia but, like you, I find it utterly fascinating and I know it endears lots of listeners to my weekly show. To get on the air and simply play the songs - it seems like it is almost like "elevator music," nearly as bad as an automated "standard playlist" played with Top 20s multiple times, day in and day out.
The Oldies Music Board » 2024 Grammys » February 13, 2024 5:07 pm |
Here's how it happened. I read that she is VERY private/shy. Read this because it relates an elaborate scheme to make this happen and the relationship, albeit loose, Tracy and Luke groomed to make this happen. Both reciprocated respect for one another. Great, great performance! I noticed, on YouTube comments, that several other commenters arrived at the same conclusion as I did - I would be willing to pay hundreds of dollars for a studio recording of "Fast Car" by those two. But that probably still couldn't begin to approach the mutual respect and outstanding performance of that live moment on-stage by those two at the Grammys. I have seen many Grammys but I would say that performance is one of the best of the best I've ever witnessed except for one - Barbra Streisand's performance of "You've Never Walk Alone" at the 2001 Grammys with the streaming of the names of the +2,700 souls lost at the 911 Tragedy. Now THAT performance, too, was phenomenal!!
The Oldies Music Board » 2024 Grammys » February 7, 2024 2:03 am |
I know, I know many of you/us probably have as low an affinity or appreciation for the Grammys as the RRHOF, maybe in part because of the "politics" in the awards - BUT, IMHO, there were three distinct events during the Grammy awards that got my attention:
- Joni Mitchell performance of "Both Sides Now"
- Billy Joel's performance of his newest of the new after 17 years of dry well, "Turn The Lights Back On" (he may have re-located his musical talent to release another album)
- Tracy Chapman duet with Luke Combs performing "Fast Car"
All three breathtaking - great voices, mutual respect by every one.
If someone put my "audio feet" to the fire, of the three, I would pick Chapman and Combs as the most inspiring. Great voices and apparent admiration manifested by Luke Combs who got everyone's attention 2023 with his release of a Country chart-topping cover of Chapman's 1988 first-charter "Fast Car," which is what they performed. That woman was well ahead of her time - two outstanding performers who manifest humility but power in their voices and their acoustic guitars. It was truly an evocative moment or two!!
The Oldies Music Board » When Groups Essentially Re-Record Their Only Hit » February 4, 2024 7:11 pm |
Thanks for sharing that thread about sideways Lorne. I guess I've seen references to that discussion here on this site. It goes back to "How many notes are similar, pattern of the notes, what key is it in, ad nauseum" before there is truly a case of copyright, or simply copying. I suppose someone could make a case and develop a "magical algorithm/conjecture" that could be a threshold to substantiate a copyright case. Too bad...
The Oldies Music Board » When Groups Essentially Re-Record Their Only Hit » February 3, 2024 6:59 pm |
Lorne wrote:
I've sometimes heard such followups as the original song being done "sideways". I've tried in the past to find an explanation of exactly what is meant by this term, but without success. However, I mentioned this to my sister a couple of years ago, and she suggested it might refer to what could be obtained by playing the original tune on a piano but shifting sideways on the keys ... I don't play piano, but that did make sense to me.
Anyway, I once heard Len Barry describe "Like A Baby" as being "1-2-3" done sideways (and that it wasn't his idea to do this). A couple of other similar-sounding followups that come to mind are The Esquires' "Get On Up" followed by "And Get Away", and The Hues Corporation's "Rock The Boat" followed by "Rockin' Soul". In all three cases, there certainly wasn't any effort made to disguise what they were doing. And in the case of The Esquires, they even titled their album Get On Up And Get Away.
Lorne - way back when, I often heard "sideways" referencing when something was going somewhere and got "sidetracked." Sidetracked was when something was meant to go forward but instead went in a different direction, not going anywhere.
I just Googled it and the response I got corroborated my above-listed comment:
"When something is supposed to be going forward and then is interrupted and flanked by unexpected issues that prevent it from doing so , it's gone sideways"
The Oldies Music Board » Original Lightfoot Band Continues Legacy » January 25, 2024 9:47 pm |
I'd be interested to hear Mauck. I would love to Lightfoot's original tenor, or at least close to his original tenor which he lost at least 20 years ago. That's when Lightfoot was at his peak.